Holland, Spinoza, Descartes, fucking and smoking dope

10th September, 2002. (Bob's house, Santa Cruz)

Fly Agaric 23: [I found the city of Amsterdam to be one of the more liberal thinking cities of Europe.]

Robert Anton Wilson: Yeah, it's been that way for a long time, when the queen who sponsored Columbus's voyage, Isabelle - when she expelled all the Jews from Spain, Holland accepted them, which has made it a very liberal country ever since and that's where Spinoza wrote and most of the major philosophers you find spent a couple of years in Holland because they were banned in their own country and had to run for their lives, some of them died in Holland. Descartes lived in Holland for a while so did Spinoza, so did a lot of them and they have always been very forward thinking and according to a friend of mine in southern California they own most of the banks which own most of the English banks which own most of the American banks which own most of the corporate capitalist world - at the same time; it dosen't matter how much their people fuck and smoke dope and get high and enjoy themselves. [laughs]

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